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<hvivani> Hi Stephen, are you there?
<smooge> I am here
<smooge> what can I help with?
<hvivani> Just want to ask you about the 2523 ticket
<hvivani> did you read my email about ?
<hvivani> do you still want to setup publictest 1 as puppet server?
<smooge> once sec
<smooge> ok so what I would like to look at is just a simple set of tests:
<smooge> 1) Install puppet/puppet server
<smooge> 2) Set up some general rules and stuff in it (this will help teach one puppet)
<smooge> 3) Upgrade the server to the newer code and see if any issues break.
<smooge> While it won't help us for everything it will cover the general test cases and also help you get used to puppet.
<hvivani> ok, very well. I'll be on that
<smooge> general rules can be gotten from karanip's site 
<smooge> on the other hand, if there are other things you want to work on, its ok to close this and do something else.
<smooge> I am trying to come up with a methodology of getting someone "promoted" like the ambassadors do.
<smooge> my ideas are the following:
<smooge> 1) put person in sysadmin-test
<smooge> 2) have them set up certain tasks and document them
<hvivani> (yes, i do the smokeping installation)
<hvivani> on publictest08, remeber?
<smooge> 3) have them write a SOP by piggy backing with a sysadmin-X on a task
<smooge> yes you did. So I think this one I need to hand to someone else later when I get a new recruit.
<smooge> Close it as "not to be done now."
<smooge> 4) promote person into sysadmin-journeyman (or something).
<smooge> So go over the other tasks... do you know or have any interest in ip6tables?
<hvivani> stop, so you mean to close the 2523 ticket ?
<hvivani> "Close it as "no to be done now""
<smooge> yeah. I think I will have what I outlined above for the next newbie.
<smooge> s/newbie/new recruit/ to be less offensive
<hvivani> ok. regarding your las question
<smooge> then what I would like you to work on is either an outstanding ticket or an SOP.
<hvivani> yes I wold like to help anything you need a hand. I'd like to learn about ip6tables... and also i was 
<smooge> sorry for not being clear. I had a phone call and a door bell at the same time
<hvivani> reading the Infrastructure_Cleanup_Tasks_2011
<smooge> cool
<hvivani> and I wonder "#  Automated creation of new machines -- run one command and it's up " means
<hvivani> you work over XEN vm's, right ?
<smooge> my guess is: would be coding/wroking with func to run 'virsh create' on a remote system
<hvivani> ok, good
<smooge> so it would be learning how func works, how func subcommands are done and then tie-ing it into virsh or similar tools to create a system either on kvm or xen
<hvivani> and regarding working on SOP, what you have to do there ?
<smooge> for the func stuff basically I would talk with skvidal on what he was looking for there and then scoping out the problem and working out how to get there.
<smooge> for the SOP, I need to do some work on that myself so don't consider it a show stopper. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_SOP_SOP is where we start.
<smooge> let me write up my plan and send it out to infrastructure today. Then we can work out how to accomplish it. 
<smooge> If the remote server has caught your fancy, start on it. #func and #fedora-noc will probably be the places to start asking about
<hvivani> ok, good
<smooge> I would expect that for development you will need to have 2 systems you can play with. One that will be a func server and the other which would be a kvm and func client
<hvivani> regarding SOp, I was reading about it acouple of days ago. You need to write new procedures, or update current procedures i guess 
<smooge> Our current infrastructure is tied heavily with func so it can't be done here until someone figures a plan to do so.
<smooge> Yes. Basically I had to learn all the SOP's when I started but haven't gone back to make sure they are still needed. And we have new services (zarafa and drupal) that will need them.
<hvivani> ok, sorry about so many questions.... 
<hvivani> and about ip6tables, how can I help you with that ?
<hvivani> Are you migrating structures from IPV4 to IPV6 ?
<smooge> we aren't as much migrating as dual-stacking
<smooge> so we need to make sure our systems default to secure as ipv6 allows for multiple ips per system in ways people are not aware of
<hvivani> I have found the #1631 ticket, are you working on it ? 
<smooge> not really.
<smooge> I started to but have had fire after fire.
<smooge> feel free to take it over.
<hvivani> Ok, wich is the servers structure that i should began the analisis to work on?
<hvivani> the ticket says: "ibiblio in particular is already assigning globally reachable IPv6 addresses to our xen hosts and guests there. But there are no ip6tables in place to filter any possible traffic. "
<smooge> ibiblio and internetx01 are our two ipv6 systems. I have an issue I have to deal with right now