Stephen, are you there? yes hi. I have a bit of a cold but am here. yeah, I read about papersand.... haha thanks for your comment on ticket #2510 (sorry sandpapered) (nice expression) I have a question if you have a minute I have about 4 then a meeting for a bit ok, about the access to puppet01 shoul I access with ssh ? I have tried many different addreses, but i could'nt puppet01.fedoraproject.org and variations of puppet* should I access with another protocol? you access it through bastion. I think there is an SOP on it ssh bastion.fedoraproject.org ssh puppet01 ok, thanks for that information. I should be able to find that anyway you close the ticket, but I would like to study the structure for future use and knowing if you don't mind np. read through the sops and look over the puppet cleanup. I have to go into a meeting for a while. ok, thanks http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Puppet_Infrastructure_SOP is a good one to read yahhh, i am right there